What were your ambitions after you started playing lacrosse?
My goal was to play in Division I. I went to a camp at the University of Maryland, and the coach there said, “If you throw 50 times against a wall righthanded and lefthanded between when you hear this and when you’re ready to be in college, I’ll give you a scholarship.”
From that point on, it’d be Christmas and I’d go out and throw the ball against the [house] siding. My parents would ask ,“What are you doing?” I was really dedicated, man. My goal was actually to score in the Carrier Dome. I thought I’d play for Syracuse because when I was growing up, there were the Gait brothers and [Tom] Marechek. I wanted to be like those guys.
What led to competitive running?
I went to a fraternity brother’s house, and his mom had just ran the Boston Marathon. It was a seminal moment in my life. That was the first time that I had seen a marathon runner that looked liked an average person. The people that you see on TV look like Bill Rodgers, or [Eliud] Kipchoge, or someone rail thin. She was just my friend’s mom. She said it was pretty straightforward. If you can do the work and do the training, then you can do a marathon. That’s all I needed to hear.
How did your background in lacrosse carry over when you started running?
There’s dedication, resilience and overcoming obstacles. Time management skills. Balance. That demand for excellence and that high achievement is something I learned through lacrosse. You can’t fake working on your left hand. If you want to be the best, you need to do all the little things that can give you an advantage and continue to allow you to evolve and really master your craft.
How has your path in running compared to what you thought it would be?
It’s insane, man. I never expected anything. It’s an honor to be a professional athlete in something that you like to do. Running has helped me balance working full time as an international ship broker and being a dad and helping coach the kids’ teams and being on a bocce ball team and trying to become a Grandmaster in chess. I’m not afraid to fail and grow through it. Lacrosse helped me in that aspect. You’re only as good as the last time you played, and if you don’t keep up with your skills, then there is somebody there to replace you. That is true is life too. You have to keep reinventing yourself.
What advice would you give somebody who is interested in running might be intimidated?
That is the cool thing about running. We all have the ability to define what success looks like for us. I used to be worried if I could even just do it. I still get that feeling. I line up now, and I’m pretty sure I’ll finish a marathon, but if I line up for a 400-kilometer race or even a 100-miler, there are so many things that can go wrong and so many challenges that can come up.
Instead of being worried now, I embrace that, and I look forward to the point where it’s not going to be fun anymore and I’m going to need to dig and go to the pain cave. I’ve been able to shift how I think about that.
What plans for 2020 can you share with us?
My big goal is to run across the U.S. I want to run from San Francisco to City Hall in New York. That’s the traditional route if you want to try to set a world record. I don’t know if I can beat Pete [Kostelnick’s] time of 42 days, but I want to put myself on the right path. I’ll be 46 next year, and I think it would be cool to finish in under 46 days. But if I could go for a chance to get that record, that would be incredible.